3 comments on “Eternally Secure? Edward Fudge answers

  1. I guess I’ll have to wait and see the rest of what he’s saying, but so far I’m not convinced. It seems an easy out to say, “Well, if he fell away, then he never really believed.” How do we know that? How can we know that?

    The warning language doesn’t seem to say, “Tell those people to come to faith in Jesus.” It says, “Hang on to what you have.” Encourage one another daily would need to say “Evangelize the non-believers among you.”

    I’ve been doing too much work with the seven letters of Revelation lately to think that Jesus means anything other than what he says. Those seven letters to not reflect eternal security.

    Grace and peace,
    Tim Archer

    On this one I suppose we will have to disagree. You see I think Jesus also meant exactly what he said in John 6 when at least three times he promised resurrection to those who trust him.

    This is a disagreement thousands of years old I suppose and good men on both sides of the issue, much more able than I, couldn’t agree. One thing I can’t find in the New Testament is any example of a person being born again, then being lost, then being born again, again which is exactly what is taught my many coC preachers. Interestingly I have never heard one who was supposedly “coming back to the Lord” be told to be baptized again.

    I have several posts in the archives that state my position in detail so I will not go into detail in this comment. The main difference between me and most of my brothers in the RM is this. I don’t think there are nearly as many people saved as they do.

    Jesus said in John 10:28 “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand”. Until someone can explain to me when “never” and “eternal” expires I will remain unconvinced Jesus didn’t mean exactly what he said here.

    I love you Tim and appreciate the great work you are doing for the Kingdom of Christ.

    Royce

  2. I realized after I submitted my comment that the “he means what he says” is a phrase that is often used in a condescending way. I didn’t mean it that way. As you said, there are godly, studious servants of God on both sides of this issue.

    I’ll take some time and read some of what you’ve written on this subject. I find too many warnings written to Christians to buy into what Fudge is saying.

    Thanks for your good writings and godly attitude. May God bless your ministry.

    Grace and peace,
    Tim Archer

  3. Pingback: Some readings on perseverance of the saints | TimothyArcher.com/Kitchen

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