7 comments on “How are works related to salvation?

  1. Royce, this is excellent! Plus your timing is impeccable for me. I appreciate your putting your inspired thoughts down for others to feed on.

  2. Good comments. I know one person in particular who will do a good deed and then comment that he has made another deposit toward getting into heaven, “getting credit from God,” is what he calls it. I never know how to respond, especially since he considers himself considerably more knowledgeable than I and always wants to teach me, including teaching me how to “get credit.” I don’t believe I need to “get credit.” I think we are all born with it already, and God will use us for His needs, for the works that He wants us to do, not the other way around. But, I am told, I have it all wrong. So, I sigh and don’t say much. I might share your blog, though! :)

    Elizabeth,

    Men and women like you and I and your friend are only reconciled to God by the sacrificial and substitutionary work of Jesus. The Bible record is consistant, none of us is righteous by birth or experience, everyone of us is by nature ungodly.

    You and I had to be taught to tell the truth, be unselfish, and obey our parents. By nature we were rebels, told lies, and would take things that were not ours. Every kid who reaches maturity will at some point do the wrong thing even though they know for sure it is wrong. That is sin and it is an affront and an offence to the glory of God who is holy.

    Jesus lived the perfect, sinless, always obedient life and sacrificed that life for you and me as our represenative. He died a cruel death as payment for our sins. Now both God’s desire for perfect obedience, and His need to punish sin have been fully satisfied by the man Christ Jesus who is now in heaven advocating for every person who trusts Him.

    Credits? Hardly! Jesus alone has any credibility with God the Father. God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. That is the scheme of redemption in a nutshell.

    Thanks for stopping by. I hope your blogname is tongue in cheek.

    Royce

  3. I’m not sure we have great minds just because they think alike, but I’ve been pondering thoughts like these off and on now for some time, and usually under my gracefaithworks sandwich label.

    Somehow before, I had completely missed the relevance of Philippians 1:3-6 – thank you for that key insight!

  4. Hi Royce,

    Actually, my blog name is not tongue-in-cheek. I spent 5 decades as an atheist who was spoiled by God in many ways; in fact, I had a friend who would comment as I experienced a deus ex machina resolution to one problem after another that God was spoiling me again. Then God reached out and shook me into being aware of His presence, pretty literally. I was quite shocked. And I was not alone, so I was not the only shocked one. (I believe that was deliberate, so that I could not come up with some alternative reason for what happened.) Anyway, now I am a blest believer. It just took 5 decades.

    Thanks for the clarification and welcome to the family!
    Royce

  5. Royce I’m really tired of men explaining how they had seen the light and they had done what ever their tribe had said was necessary to be part of the chosen and now they expended all their energy serving God, “making every effort ……to be holy….”thus fulfilling Peters reminder from Leviticus to “Be holy because I am holy”. What they acknowledge they couldn’t do prior to justification they now have the knowledge and tools to complete with no strain. Fifteen years after salvation I took my inheritance and went into the far country for twenty-three years. I knew I was in rebellion, I knew not only what was on page two of stone, I knew the penalty required more stones. Grace never left me, Grace called me to the alter of repentance time and time again but I protected my reputation confessing only to God and continuing to be lord of my life.
    Even then Grace called me. Today I know who Grace is, Jesus my Lord and savior,
    God the ever loving Father, Holy Spirit gently guiding (and rebuking). Paul, in his letter to Titus, has made it clear to me where any measure of obedience that I hunger for today comes from to redeem and purify. Two or three times a week I drive His Spirit out to RCC and He uses my voice to express His love and my arms to embrace His Son’s that my brothers will know Grace as we, my brothers and I, get to experience an answer to Jesus’ prayer in the grove just before His arrest. He lives now and forever and because He lives I live. He doesn’t need me. But I’m dead without Him……………bee

    Thanks Bee. Your unselfesh love for those inmates speaks volumes about what God has done in you. You are a “grace man”, one after God’s own heart as you make Christ known in a dark place.

    Royce

  6. Although we disagree on the role of Baptism, I think this post is right on the money. I plan to read over more your you post and comment as time permits. I have TRIPLTES at home, so finding time can be a challenge.

    Take care,
    Randy

    Welcome Randy, thanks for your comment.

    I am a grandfather of twins and have an associate with trips as well. You and your wife have your hands full!

    Thankfully full agreement is not what makes us one in Christ but rather our trust in Him.

    Boys, girls, or other?

    Royce

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