Well, I guess that settles it then doesn’t it?
Royce

In your view I trust Jesus too much. I think less of my ability to perform well enough to impress God than you do your ability to impress God.

I believe Jesus is God you don’t. You believe Jesus is a created being just as some of the cults believe. I believe the Bible record when it says he (Jesus) has all power in heaven and on earth, that he created everything and by his power all things hold together, and that his name is above every name, and that salvation is only through him.

You believe in religion, I believe in a Redeemer.

I know that I am likely in the minority in this blogging community but I will die trusting Christ alone for my salvation. I don’t believe I’ll ever have to defend that position to my Holy Father in heaven. My only plea is now and will forever be the blood of Christ for my sins and His resurrection for my life.

Royce

good discussion Royce thanks.

Royce does this, or does this not indicate that Jesus was God’s begotten Son before he was sent to earth.
1Jn:4:9: In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

I don’t believe I have ever denied the “bodily” resurrection, I do believe his resurrection was different than ours will be. ( according to Paul)
And I don’t believe it will be held against me. if I believe God had something to do with the creation of his Son, One is said to have “begat” the other is said to have been “begotten”

1 Jn :5:1: Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

As I have said I didn’t write 1 Jn :5:1
God bless

Laymond The Son was begotten in regard to his physical body. He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit, he had no human father.
Sure, I agree Jesus’ resurrection body was a “glorified” body but it still had scars from the death he died. It was fit for heaven and earth but no less a body.

You also didn’t write this verse “And we know that the Son of God has come and(AH) has given us understanding, so that we may know(AI) him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life“.

“But of the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”

10And,

“You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of your hands;
11they will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment,
12like a robe you will roll them up,
like a garment they will be changed.
But you are the same,
and your years will have no end.” (Hebrews 1:8-12)

This He said of the man Christ Jesus who is God. ” 8See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. 9For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,” (Col 2:8,9)

Royce

Yes eternal life is in his Son

Jn: 5:22: For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Royce said, ”It does not say “God rewarded”

You are right Royce, he said he would reward “then”
Mt: 16:27: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

No we cannot get to heaven by bypassing Jesus Christ, or without having faith in him. But I believe there are many places in scripture where it says it is not enough to just say “I believe”

1 Jn :5:1: Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
2: By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
“ you can’t love God without keeping his commandments, you can’t love his Son without loving him. keep his commandments, works”

Jms :2:17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18: Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

I believe what James said needs on explanation.

Laymond you are impossible. I’ll say it again though. I have never taught that you only believe a set of facts. Bible faith always works. If there are no works following there is no faith. We work because of who we are. We are not who we are because of what we do.

Royce