8 comments on “The effective (or ineffective) church of the 21st century

  1. This is by far the best take on the church in today’s modern environment. I am to link to it and preach this same thing to our church. You have said what I have tried to pass on to many people who just don’t see it. Far too many people are selfish and thing it is about them instead of about others. They go to church looking for what can be done for them instead of what they can give to others. Societal influence and cultural marketing have had too much impact in the bride of Christs thinking. You are preaching to the choir here.

  2. In looking at what is right & what is wrong with today’s church, I recently came across two differing points of view about what a “church” is. I don’t know if they differ so much as to exclude each other, but they are both thought provoking…

    1. Church is primarily a place for a body of believers to be strengthened, equipped, and sharpened to do the work we are called to do for Christ (keeping in mind that the unbeliever will occasionally stumble in) so the services are designed as such – to edify the believer and proclaim the gospel.
    OR
    2. Church is a “hospital for sinners,” not a “showplace for saints.” Meaning that CHURCH is the place for unbelievers and those who need healing & deliverance to come to belief in Christ, so the church services reflect this in that they are geared to speaking to the lost & hurting.

    Perhaps if we could figure out what our true purpose is as the Church – the body, the bride – and as the church – the building and local group of believers – we would be able to better mobilize and reach those who so desperately need to be reached.

    I’m curious what your thoughts are on these two ideas of the church and if this has anything to do with our seeming impotence in the “world” today.

  3. Laura,

    Although there are elements of truth in both views I agree with the first more. The “church” in the Bible was not bricks and mortar, nor was it necessarily repersenative of a particular group of people who met regularly for religeous activity. The most common meaning in the Bible of the Greek word translated “church” is simply “assembly”.

    First there is the church “catholic” or universal, which is called the body of Christ, His bride. It consists of every born again one on earth and in heaven without regard to the label they have on the building where they meet. Secondly there is the local or geographicaly located assembly of believers.

    The church on earth is here to worship together, to pray together, to hear the word of God together, to encourage, meet physical needs, confess to, exhort, correct, be subject to, one another. And to love sinners in Jesus’ stead in every way possible.

    Then it is this same group of people who are charged with making known Christ Jesus and His work on behalf of sinners to the world about them. First to their neighborhood, then to the outlying regions, and finally to the whole world.

    Our evangelistic efforts should be out in the market place, sports events, homes, etc. and any place else we encounter people we can love and tell. If some lost folks happen into our assembly great, but in my view that is a bonus and not by design.

    His peace,
    Royce Ogle

  4. Royce,

    Great thoughts and great reminder. Even those trying to get outside of the box at times still focus only on fixing church instead of focusing on Jesus.

    Thanks for the reminder.

  5. Royce,
    Wonderful post brother.
    I think the CoC in the past was know for being the only one’s going to heaven. I believe they were full of pride. I think they focused on issues like instrumental music, dancing, and other issues that dont’ matter. I think in the next 30 years you are going to see a huge change in the way the church looks and functions. I believe we won’t be program driven. I think we will be people driven. Reaching out to those who need help (benevolence) and needing Jesus Christ. I think we are on the verge of a second reformation. I think it is exciting. I think the Holy Spirit will play a major role in our lives in the gifts, worship, the way we live and reaching out to the lost. I pray we will become one over the next decades. When my son becomes a teen I don’t want to hear sermons on instrumental music, exclusivism, elitism, but the love and grace of God. I am excited that we are thinking. Think is important. Understand the post-Christian nation that America is or has become. We need to understand that the word never chages but the way we worship, and reach out can and must. We are living in a dangerous time where young people are leave the church in huge numbers. We need to wake up! We need to get out of our seats and do the work of the kingdom. We need to reach out to these emerging generations.
    I want to thank you for discussing this wonderful topic.
    I love you brother.
    In Him,
    Kinney Mabry

  6. Preacherman,

    “I don’t know” is the correct answer to your question. I do believe there is a “revivial” of sorts, not only in Restoration churches but in many of the denominations. Many people are no longer satisfied by just putting in an appearance, a token amount in the collection plate, and saying a prayer before meals. I sense a thrist for something real and vibrant that will change lives here, and assurance of the future.

    People like me who contend for true biblical Christianity, with or without tradition, and with the approval or without the approval of the “brotherhood”, are simply labeled “change agents”. (I think by the way the term is fitting and gladly wear the label.)

    Men like Leroy Garrett, Edward Fudge, and Ketcherside, have made the same plea long before me and the fruit of their labor is coming to fruition.

    A generation of zealots who learned their trade in the 40′s, 50′s, and 60′s will be dead in a few years and the heart of legalism in the coC will be dead with them. There will always be a few who put self righteousness ahead of righteousness which is by faith, man’s works in opposition to Christ’s work, and contrived worship vs. worship in Spirit and in truth.

    The message of the gospel of the grace of God is going out across our land and is being well recieved. I pray that it continues on that path until Jesus comes.

    His peace,
    Royce

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